[identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
http://www.gramota.ru/biblio/magazines/nauka_i_zhizn/28_618 (The article is in Russian, sorry.)

But it comes down to simply this: yes, you put the points over the letter "ё".
And it is obligatory where proper nouns are concerned (as stated in the law). and even the law states so .

Date: 2008-02-15 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freedomcry.livejournal.com
Your source is NOT authoritative, it's one academic's minority report. The rule still says you don't have to, and good style still dictates you don't unless you need to. Please go somewhere else with your ё-jihad and don't confuse people.

Date: 2008-02-15 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katiroma.livejournal.com
The law cited in this article refers only to proper nouns.

Date: 2008-02-15 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-roumor.livejournal.com
hey mate you stole my post, ёпт.

also the article is awfull by its own. looks like some school essay

Date: 2008-02-15 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alamar.livejournal.com
You'll have to kill a lot to force people to write ёs.

Умрем за единый аз, again?

Date: 2008-02-15 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bokh.livejournal.com
Ё FTW!

There probably were technical reasons to reduce the alphabet as much as possible back in mechanical typography days, but today it is so easy to insert this character into a text that I don't see any reason not to.

Here: ё ё ё ё ё. See how easy it is? ё ё ё!

ё

Date: 2008-02-15 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candrodor.livejournal.com
Actual state law? For real?

Date: 2008-02-16 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icamel.livejournal.com
on different keyboard it is placed in different corners, so it is difficult to insert it in blind typing.

Date: 2008-02-16 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eloise-13.livejournal.com
true.
last summer i worked for the entrance commitee of msu and there was an entrant whose passport said he was "леденёв" while in his school certificate his surname was spelt as "леденев". we simply couldn't accept his documents: not that we cared much about "ё" (although i personally always type it as "ё"), but he wouldn't have been allowed to take the exams. so, he had to change one of the documents and had only several days to do that (which is almost impossible in russia). strangely he managed to get a new passport in time. now he's "леденев"(which sounds slightly awkward, by the way) and a first-year student of our faculty =)

Date: 2008-02-18 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-kenobi.livejournal.com
Well, from a beginner's point of view, I'd prefer to see ё in text. It's difficult- and near impossible most of the time- to predict where it will appear when learning new words solely from a literary source. It's a completely different sound, and thus is the basis for the creation of an alphabet; to distinguish between different sounds.

My tutor began explaining to me why it was dropped, but I still don't really know. She made a joke about how during the cold war academics from across the Soviet Union banded together to try and find ways to confuse the American's as much as possible, and the Russian language is the result of that collaboration ^_^

Maybe someone here can clarify it for me why it is so important to drop it, and I'll admit that I am just being a Luddite.

Date: 2008-02-19 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritrc.livejournal.com
As far as I can hear, many Russians now tend to mispronounce words because of this reduced 'ё' issue. That is especially a problem with various proper names, mostly foreign in origin.

I anybody asked me, I'd vote for 'ё' being a must.

Date: 2008-02-20 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-kenobi.livejournal.com
Wow, that's even worse. Unless the letter is completely eradicated from every level of use, it seems just so incredibly impractical to not use the right symbol.

I wish someone would explain to me why there's such a big commotion about those two dots!
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