[identity profile] xswt-cherryx.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
okay
so...

i so far know three cases of the pronouns. nominative accusitive and genitive.

я, меня, меня
ты, тебя, тебя
он, его, него
она, её, неё
мы, нас, нас
вы, вас, вас
они, их, них

respectivly. so say for example i would want to say "I want you", 'you' would be in accusitive form?
Я хачу тебя.
could you even omit Я because of the conjugation of 'want'?

I realize this is kinda simple, but Im just curious because I heard a line in a song and Im just curious as to if I understand the right way.

Date: 2007-03-08 04:55 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
it is хОчу
otherwise yes, you can drop "я" so the phrase fits into a poetic metre. However, in everyday life this omission may sound slightly unnatural, so it is better to say "Я тебя люблю/хочу/etc."

Date: 2007-03-08 04:55 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
P.S. accusAtive

Date: 2007-03-08 04:58 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
P.P.S. него, нее and них look out of place here

видел кого? ее, его, их (accusative)
нет кого? ее, его, их (genitive)

Date: 2007-03-08 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miram.livejournal.com
The "н"-forms are used with prepositions: нет её/его/их, but: без него/неё/них.

Date: 2007-03-08 05:31 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
oh, right (sleep deprivation is a terrible thing)
anyway, ee/eго/их can be used for both accusative and genitive
can него/нее/них be used in accusative? I cannot think of an example right now but maybe you can

Date: 2007-03-08 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miram.livejournal.com
Yes, it can: (они напали) на него/неё/них 'they attacked him/her/them'.

Date: 2007-03-08 06:28 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Thanks. So, my point actually was: it is wrong to say that он, его, него are forms of nominative, accusative and genitive cases respectively. Он is nominative and его/него can be both accusative and genitive. The same goes for ее/нее and их/них.

Date: 2007-03-08 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miram.livejournal.com
Agreed.

Date: 2007-03-09 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baby-rhino.livejournal.com
what song was it? :)))

Date: 2007-03-12 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baby-rhino.livejournal.com
:) their songs are among the worst for learning Russian, since most of them have no "normal" text/lyrics, just a number of sentences or words linked together in some weird order ;)
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