Beer

Oct. 11th, 2006 10:10 am
[identity profile] robomarkov.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
I have friends that make their own beer at home. In the US this beer is called "homebrew".

PROMPT returned this: домашнее пиво

Is there a colloquial term for homebrew? This term seems more formal.

Date: 2006-10-11 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpod.livejournal.com
what is PROMPT?

Date: 2006-10-11 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toribas.livejournal.com
homebrew может переводится и как самогон, а этого добра как раз хватает..

Date: 2006-10-11 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sashka-vyshka.livejournal.com
homebrew isn't самогон, because самогон is home-made vodka. The procedure of making beer and vodka is slightly different ;)
And please answer in English, not everybody here understands Russian

You're wrong.

Date: 2006-10-11 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natha1ie.livejournal.com
See for example:
http://www.eastsib.ru/~alguru/beer/
http://www.teddybeer.ru/home/index.htm
It's quite possible to make beer at home.

Date: 2006-10-11 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khathi.livejournal.com
Well, there is such term -- "брага". But such brews, while indeed made quite commonly, aren't beers in strict sense, as it usually aren't made from malted barley, and aren't matured like beer. It's usually made for immediate consumption when preparation time is at premium, and in this case is usually brewed from sweet sources like fruits or simply sugar, or used as a intermediate for moonshine -- in this case, actually, almost ANY organics can be used, but usually some starchy stuff.

Date: 2006-10-11 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khathi.livejournal.com
"Самогон" isn't "homebrew", it's "moonshine". "Homebrew" is actually closest to "брага".

Date: 2006-10-11 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raventhourne.livejournal.com
So, брага is something like kvass?

Date: 2006-10-11 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kav2k.livejournal.com
Automatic translation system. As any automatic translation system, it is rarely useful, as there are no really good heuristics to "sense" semantics. You can get a lot of humorous incorrect translations though ;)

No.

Date: 2006-10-11 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natha1ie.livejournal.com
Брага contents alcohol, квас practically doesn't.

Date: 2006-10-11 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Please use English, this is the working language here.

Date: 2006-10-11 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megilla.livejournal.com
somebody does, I know one man
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Date: 2006-10-11 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenkira.livejournal.com
That's not true, there's a stand in the building behind the yurt out at the VVTs, in Moscow. You can get all your basic homebrew supplies, malts, and buy beer on the spot too.

Date: 2006-10-11 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khathi.livejournal.com
Not exactly. You see, modern kvass is made specifically non-alcoholic, using special techniques, while брага is just your common brew, made without special precautions -- just some sugary or starchy stuff, some water and yeast put into airtight container and allowed to ferment.

...or not.

Date: 2006-10-12 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainfisto.livejournal.com
...or it has nothing to do with the influences from hundreds of years ago and is more directly related to the fact that store bought beer is at least twice as expensive as homemade beer and it is as good a hobby as any other. I don’t know the cost of materials in Russia, but I know the cost of beer/vodka there is far far cheaper than it is in the USA.

Also, I can’t speak for others, but I brew beer because it is a satisfying endeavor and the product makes you feel as good as the process. I doubt that the influences from the colonial period have had much of a direct impact on that.

Date: 2006-10-12 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpod.livejournal.com
I can't find such translation system via google. Known systems are Systran, Babel Fish, Promt, dictionaries are Linvgo, Multitran etc.. But there is no PROMPT...

Date: 2006-10-12 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kav2k.livejournal.com
Well, I guess both I and the post author misspelled the name. I meant PROMT, but I didn't use it for a long time and forgot the exact name.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicodimus-canis.livejournal.com
My grandmother makes beer at home and kvas, wine, samogon as well :))
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