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Privet vsem,
I'm currently a sophomore in college, planning to study in Russia next year, most likely for a semester. My college is the partner of Smolny College in St. Petersburg, where I have studied over the summer. I was wondering if anybody could recommend programs for studying abroad, either in St. Petersburg or Moscow, whether it makes sense to go about it all by myself or go through another school's program. I'm not so much looking to learn the language, but to be rather self-sufficient and take actual academic classes on Russian Literature as well as Philosophy. I would be grateful for any comments, suggestions, (or experiences with Smolny College itself). (If this has recently been discussed, feel free to just paste the link to the thread in the comment.)

Date: 2006-02-21 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idealforcolors.livejournal.com
i'm going on the sit program in a week, which has no literature or philosophy. but i looked at a lot of program course offerings, and i think if you want to take philosophy in russian then smolny or a middlebury program might be your best bet.

Date: 2006-02-21 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] specialkatsc.livejournal.com
Привет!
I'm a sophomore at Smith College and I'm going in August for 10 months to study in St. Petersburg with ACTR. I personaly feel like this program is going to be AMAZING- but I also havn't actually gone yet. It has classes in both things you are looking for and more- and if you're advanced enough you can just take regular university classes rather than the ones for the program. Hope that helps! ;D

Date: 2006-02-21 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Привет!

Не знаю программок, но если я не знал не лучше, я бы говорю, что если ты ходишь в Сайнт Петербурге, тебе нужен узнать немного русского языка чтобы жит во руссии. Это всё. Пожа в моей жизне, хочу поехать в москве и учитать там. Ты знаешь если универсети в Москве?

(Mind my spelling, please)

Date: 2006-02-21 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belacane.livejournal.com
how confident do you feel with your russian?
if you havn't done it before... taking advanced subject matter in a language that you arn't yet really fluent in is a lot harder than one might expect.

Date: 2006-02-22 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idealforcolors.livejournal.com
hehe, i have a friend who tried to do that with neurobiology. didn't really work out, but props to him for trying :)

Date: 2006-02-22 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] specialkatsc.livejournal.com
конешно есть! http://www.americancouncils.org/home.asp?PageID=1

Date: 2006-02-22 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] specialkatsc.livejournal.com
тоже- с АСТR тоже учишся и москве... и в владимер.

Date: 2006-02-22 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrestthisman.livejournal.com
Hey! You go to Bard? Me too! (And your username makes reference to the Brothers K, that's cool.) I went to Smolny for a summer thing. My name is Andi, maybe we know each other?

Date: 2006-02-22 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belacane.livejournal.com
all the more power to you then!

:)

Date: 2006-02-22 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
конеЧно
учишЬся
вО ВладимерЕ

maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-22 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
.. но если бы был в курсе, то сказал, что, если ты хочешь в Санкт-Петербург, то тебе надо знать русский хотя бы немного.. Позже я сам хочу поехать в Москву и учиться там. Есть ли в Москве университеты с такими курсами?

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-23 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
I'm not so sure how to actually sound like a russian. I don't really know how to use the word "òî" like you did. By the way, is there a rule governing ëè?

Side note: Pimsleur says that åñòü is to exist, but I thought it was the imperfective of ñúåñòü(?) meaning to eat.

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-23 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
Your translations [or transkriptions?] looks for me like hieroglyphs.
Is it 'cause of computer-coding, or what?

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-24 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what it is. Goto view -> Encoding -> Cryllic (windows)

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-24 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
I, certainly, tried it :)

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-24 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Hmm...I'm not sure. But if I recall correctly, I was asking how to use the russian word To and the russian word Li (I think makes it a question).

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
Sorry, I don't speak english so fluently to explain you this. I think, you should just write a post about it here, and experts would be happy to help you :))

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
ß áóäó. Ñïàñèáî. À òû ãîâîðèøü ïî-àíãëèéñêèé ëó÷øå, ÷åì ÿ ãîâîðþ ïî-ðóññêèé. Åø¸ íîâè÷îê ÿ. :-(

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
there are again a lot of unreadable signs..

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Oops. I forgot. You can't view my russian. I said ,"I will. thanks. And you speak english better than I do russian. I'm still a novice though. :-(

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
Certainly! A'm learning it, sway back and forth [can i say it in a such way?], already for nine years and sometimes, very rare, practice :)

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
I've never heard of the word "A'm", but I'm guessing it means "I am". Though, I tend to not use colloquial speech like ,"Sup', hoe?". To sway back and forth is correct, it would mean to switch constantly between the usage of two or (possibly, though two would be implied) more things. How often do you speak it?

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
Yeah, i made a misteke :)
About "back and forth" - I meant not this, my dictionary doodled me :) I wanted to cay, that i did it with varied success

oh, speak.. about two times a month and only for 3-4 minutes with occasional clients (

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Varied success. Hmm...ups and downs? Wow...the word "doodle" sounds like something my mom would say. Heh...it makes me laugh. To doodle could also mean to draw, but it's not like a good drawing. It's like sketching in a way.

Wow..that's not very much. I speak russian about 8 times a weak for about 4 or 5 minutes a week. I write a host (Great number) of things in russian randomly.Much like "doodling" sentences.

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-26 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-s-a-n.livejournal.com
Blah.. you made me laugh too.. and colour :))
How can i replace word "doodle".. to express.. like my dictionary promised me trunk full of gold but gave one coin? :)

Where do you study it? Is it difficult for you? And how long?

Re: maybe, smth like this?

Date: 2006-02-27 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Heh. And I see you've learned the "british" way of things. Id est, you spell things in english differently thank us americans. You spell the word Color colour, and behavior behaviour. That's ok though, because I find it to be quite amazing, and it makes one look more intelligent. Sometimes I ponder why we americans don't do the british way of things. Tis' a shame.

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you trying to ask me how you can replace the word "doodle" in the sentence where you said ,"My dictionary doodled me"? Or a way to put the word doodle into the sentence "My dictionary promised me a trunk full of gold, but game me one coin"?

If it was the first one, where your dictionary "doodled" you, you could also say ,"My dictionary lied to me" or "My dictionary gave me false information".

If it was the second one, where your dictionary promised you a trunk full of gold, but gave you one coin, you could say ,"My trunk doodled me when I was given one coin out of a promised full trunk". But that sentence construction is pretty complex. That construction sounds much more intelligent though.

I study russian on my own. I'm self-taught. I speak it with a ukrainian lady a lot, so it's like practice. And I learn more vocab, and I'm kind of fluent depending on what I am trying to say. My cases usually are off a bit, but I try to take more time and consider what ending(s) to use while I talk...so I might sound hindered. Is it difficult for me? Well, it was at first. You see, I am taking latin at my school right now, where adjectives in general share the same endings for adjectives in nouns unless the noun and adjective are different declensions (In some cases they can be different declensions, and still have the same ending). Going from Latin into Russian is difficult because where latin would use one case, russian would use another and vice versa. But I've almost been studying russian for a year, as of May this year. The case system isn't so intimidating as it was when I began, I've gotten a lot better at it. Complex sentence construction, wording, and vocab usually get me. I've not quite breached 900 words, I'm assuming, and some things in english are worded differently in russian. For example,
If you were to say "The sky was full of fire" in russian (I'll transliterate), you'd say ,"Nebo byl vsyo v ogan'." Literally, it means "The sky was all in fire". Sorry for writing a lot.

How would you say ,"He sounds like a complete dumb-ass" in russian?

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