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[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

What would be the purpose of using сегодняшний день? It seems kind of redundant to me.

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[constpd.livejournal.com]

It is usually used in set expessions “на сегодняшний день” (currently, a very official-sounding form), “по сегодняшний день”, “до сегодняшнего дня” (until today, until now).

[ex-ex-mmnd9.livejournal.com]

"на сегодняшний день" = to date

[pochitai.livejournal.com]

так ведь бывает и вчерашний день...
чтобы отличать дни

[zloizloi.livejournal.com]

to distinguish it from вчерашний день, may be?

[taosu.livejournal.com]

Not really. "На сегодняшний" день means "nowadays", "to date". It's used when talking about some results. For example, На сегодняшний день завод выпустил столько-то машин.

"Вчерашний день" doesn't mean "yesterday". I think it's not to be used in literal meaning. There's a good example: "Твой плеер — это вчерашний день", i.e. obsolete.

[ex-ex-zhuzh.livejournal.com]

Huh? (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=%22%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8F%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9+%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C%22+%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0+site%3A.lib.ru&btnG=Search)

[oryx_and_crake]

Сегодня is an adverb, сегодняшний день is a noun and can be used in sentences that require a noun, e.g. Сегодняшний день - самый знаменательный в истории человечества. Today's the most important day in the history of mankind. If you try to do without, you will get something like Сегодня - самый знаменательный день в истории человечества. See, you have to use день anyway.

[ex-ex-zhuzh.livejournal.com]

Both expressions can be used perfectly well in their literal sense, e.g. Сегодняшний день мы посвятим осмотру Эрмитажа.

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[pochitai.livejournal.com]

zloizloi did it for me, thanks!

[freedomcry.livejournal.com]

On a side note, Czech routinely uses dnešní den which is more conspicuously redundant, despite actually having a noun for 'today' (dnešek). Some pleonasms survive because they sound melodious, I guess.

[solito.livejournal.com]

Isn't it the same as aujourd'hui?

[ja-va.livejournal.com]

Сегодня is a lot more informal.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Why you think so? Сегодня is 100 per cent stylistically neutral, it is neither formal nor informal.