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[real-h8t.livejournal.com]

What does "же" mean?

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[philena.livejournal.com]

It's an intensifier. Russians decide where to put it in based on some magic all-knowing-Russian-native-speaker antennae, and there's no way you'll be able to figure out how to use it convincingly :)

[oryx_and_crake]

There was a similar question posted a while ago (probably not more than a month ago) and people gave many detailed answers. If you look it up, it may help.

[basile.livejournal.com]

The really meaning is "i know about this".
"он говорил тебе"/"он говорил же тебе" - he told you/he told (as i know) to you".

[ob-ivan.livejournal.com]

but it also has a grammatical meaning in some constructions like "в тот же день" - that is, "on the same day". dropping "же" results to "on that day".

indeed there's a plenty of meanings of "же", it's hard to list them all.

yeah

[nemica.livejournal.com]

It's one of the special spy detecting magic words, inscrutable for non-Russians.

[ob-ivan.livejournal.com]

inexact. in your example it's more like "and YOU know it".
it could be put like "i remind you, that ..."

[mr-yogurt.livejournal.com]

http://www.livejournal.com/community/learn_russian/127537.html

[ex-ex-zhuzh.livejournal.com]

When opposing two clauses it can also mean "but" or "however", as in Все пошли в кино, я же решил остаться дома "Everybody went to the movies, but (however) I decided to stay home".

[basile.livejournal.com]

OK. Best example? understating american-english != writing in american-english for me. :(

[lexabear.livejournal.com]

Wow, that's exactly how I feel about the Spanish subjunctive.

[cema.livejournal.com]

There is a nice story about Подпоручик Киже whose name grew out from a typo ("подпоручики же"). Very Russian, but difficult to read for a beginner.

[egh0st.livejournal.com]

ЖЕ (ж) in russian grammar :

1.a. Conjunction, used for better contrast between two sentences.
1.b. Conjuction, used for combining parenthetic clause with main sentence.

2. Particle. For emphasis of the word it follows.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_teemon_/]

no,no,no.

"он же тебе говорил", not "он говорил же тебе".

[octavarium.livejournal.com]

we also can say "полная же..." :)))))
it's not easy to understand

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

If you cannot explain properly, then why you bother yourself writing this? ;-)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

It's been discussed here (http://www.livejournal.com/community/learn_russian/216235.html), and there was an important link posted by me.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

BTW it's in the Community memories (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=learn_russian) in the "Word usage" section.

[shalapanova.livejournal.com]

It seems to be "поручик", not "подпоручик", BTW :-)

Re: yeah

[kehlen-crow.livejournal.com]

And our response to their traps, such as "in an hour" - where you don't pronounce the "h" (at list a Brit told me so) :D

[temcat.livejournal.com]

You can encounter that in the everyday speech, however.

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[ataltane.livejournal.com]

The h in "hour" is never pronounced. Another word like this is honour. Most other h's are pronounced, at least by people who... umm.. pronounce them (certain dialects, typically English ones, drop h sounds in certain position).

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[battersby.livejournal.com]

I'm American, and I rarely pronounce the h's when it's in the beginning of a word. Then again, from where I grew up in Maryland, I have a supposedly strong accent. *shrugs*

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[ataltane.livejournal.com]

Ok, I knew I wasn't being nearly careful enough. Point is, there are some words beginning with silent h in all (..hmm) varieties, and "hour" is the best example I can think of. Other h's are, let's say, pronouncable; it depends on your own variety of English whether you pronounce them or not. But, if someone from a completely-h-free dialect wondered "do so some weird people pronounce the h in hour?", the answer is, AFAIK, no. :-).

It's probably a wrong answer; someone somewhere probably does. But it's approximately pretty right, I think!

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[battersby.livejournal.com]

I understand perfectly what you're saying. but I just wanted to let others know that it's more than just the British that tend nor to pronounce the h's in the beginning of a word when they are supposed to be. as for those who pronounce it when it shouldn't be, I haven't found a single person yet.

[oncelosthorizon.livejournal.com]

I like your username!

[octavarium.livejournal.com]

mmm... really... :) thanks!

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[holyschist.livejournal.com]

That's a quote to save.

well, always welcome :)

[nemica.livejournal.com]

How is your Internship? ;)

Re: well, always welcome :)

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

It's starting on Monday.

Re: well, always welcome :)

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

Also, uh, I don't think I posted publically about my internship and I don't think I know you, so why do you ask?

Re: well, always welcome :)

[nemica.livejournal.com]

Well, it was secret operation... I checked up your lj.

Re: well, always welcome :)

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

Ah, I did mention it briefly, I see. I didn't remember posting that. Mystery solved.