http://yurodivy84.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] yurodivy84.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] learn_russian2007-05-11 07:28 am
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Cognate Madness

What is the most "direct" term for a linguist in Russian? Лингвист is like an interpreter, but does that mean that a linguist is a филолог? --because linguistics is really not philology... but then... an interpreter is really not a linguist!

...and does the "professional" translation of историческое языкознание translate "historical linguistics" well?

P.S. Does бабушка really conjure up the same stereotypical image in Russian as it does in English (according to an irritated Russian friend)? If so, how on Earth does one talk about one's grandmum in Russian?!?

Спасибо

[identity profile] lovimoment.livejournal.com 2007-05-13 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Look, if you want to argue about this because you're bored, we can do that. But I think that if you ask the average English speaker, "Is babushka an English word?" most of them would say no.

The way it is used in English (as "headscarf") is completely limited to talking about the headscarves of Russian peasant women - no one would say, "Oh, it's windy outside, let me run back in for my babushka." Or, "Oh, did you see the babushkas they're selling at Macy's? They are sooooo cute."

It's in the dictionary because if you're reading a book and come across the word printed in English (as will happen if you like to read Russian literature in translation), with no explanation or hints from context of what it is, you need to be able to look it up. But the fact that it's in the dictionary does not mean it's "valid" English. That would be like say "glasnost" and "perestroika" are valid English words because you can find them on dictionary.com...but the truth is, we use them only when referring to Gorbachev's reform policies. In English, you wouldn't say about your American company, "Yeah, we're having a perestroike - they're firing all the middle management," because we already have the word "restructuring."

[identity profile] lovimoment.livejournal.com 2007-05-13 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The point is, you could have put it some other way (such as "your area it's not a used word") rather than saying my friends "are just ignorant."

And I know what vindaloos and lorries are...the links aren't really necessary.