http://david-us.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] david-us.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] learn_russian2008-10-01 09:48 pm

mixed declension

I ran across this sentence the other day during my studies:

Я вижу твоего дядю.
"I see your uncle."

Very odd. Is this grammatically correct?

[identity profile] shariperkins.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.

[identity profile] sofa-m.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
to my native Russian ears, yes, this is grammatically correct
it can be used in this context - 'I see your uncle over there' - "Вот там я вижу твоего дядю'
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[personal profile] oryx_and_crake 2008-10-02 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Папа and дядя (as well as all the feminine nouns with a/я ending) belong to the first declension, not second.
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[personal profile] oryx_and_crake 2008-10-02 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yours must be some new system then. Actually, this Wikipedia article has it my way but mentions that there is another system that does it in a different way. I have been taught all my life that мама is first declension, стол second and мышь third.
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[personal profile] oryx_and_crake 2008-10-02 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Not that it actually matters; however putting predominantly feminine nouns first must be considered a more politically correct system. ;-)

[identity profile] superslayer18.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, this is the way that I was taught as well.
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[personal profile] oryx_and_crake 2008-10-02 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
It is absolutely correct. What exactly is the problem?

[identity profile] fortsas.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Declension and gender do not necessarily coincide. It is only the case with the third declension ("ночь", "мышь"), which includes feminine nouns ending with an "ь".
So it's not very correct to call "a/я" feminine endings.

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[identity profile] konstkaras.livejournal.com 2008-10-03 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Depending on context, it may be also translated as continuous tence (I'm seeing your uncle)