ext_294960 ([identity profile] yers.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] learn_russian2006-11-01 11:44 pm

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Top 10 Russian surnames, and what they mean:

1 Смирнов — Smirnov, “of the meek one”*
2 Иванов — Ivanov, “of Ivan (John)”
3 Кузнецов — Kuznetsov, “of the blacksmith”
4 Попов — Popov, “of the priest”
5 Соколов — Sokolov, “of Falcon”*
6 Лебедев — Lebedev, “of Swan”*
7 Козлов — Kozlov, “of Goat”*
8 Новиков — Novikov, “of the newcomer”
9 Морозов — Morozov, “of Frost”*
10 Петров — Petrov, “of Pyotr (Peter)”

*presumably from a nickname

A longer list: 50 most common Russian surnames
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[personal profile] alon_68 2006-11-02 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Revolution gave many new names, and few survived

You didn't understand me here. I spoke about revived ancient names (like Vadim and Svetlana), not about newly created.

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And I continued, that some ancient names not only were revived after revolution, but are revived now. From Бажен, Баян to Ярослав, Ярун.

Newly created names is the topic, that is important to our country. You, may be, not interested in it.

[identity profile] mytza.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I know about "tolmach" - I am Romanian and we have an old word ("talmaci") that has the same meaning :)

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
In Russian translator is "переводчик", and "tolmach" nowadays means nothing. But still has some meaning: historical or in languages, that are closed to our.

"Толкать" has a meaning to push, but "Толкач" is not very common family name. I was surprised, that Google know such persons. :-)

Re: Timo...

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Timofey (Тимофей) is a good name for Russian character. Its Orthodox, came from Greece. In Russian its just a sound, like mantra. But means "the one, who respect God" in Greek.

Nothing girlish at all, very strong male name. The short & quick name is Timoha (Тимоха), not Timo. You can use Tim, but its uncommon.

The girlish nickname could be Tima (Тима). If you say Tima to Timofey, he will be aggravated. Even more girlish form is Timochka (Тимочка), that could be correct short & sweet name for Timofey.

Timo is neutral gender and unlikely to be used by Russians. May be Timofey loves French culture and calls himself "timO". But are you sure, you need a gay character? Because its their style.

[identity profile] mytza.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Tolkach is the name of a former Russian ambassador here :)
Well, Google seems to be better at producing results when you search for Russian names or words in transliteration than in Cyrillic letters. By the way, don't you prefer Yandex?

[identity profile] shogun-kub.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's classical surnames. But there were such names as Falcon and Swan in very ancient times, before 9-th century, in pagan russia...

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
May be the ambassador has something Romanian in blood or karma. :-)

Google.ru, ya.ru (short for Yandex) and Rambler.ru are the best search engines in Russian Internet. I prefer Google, because its good everywhere. And, as you know "от добра добра не ищут".

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! At THAT times...

You are right. But its unlikely someone will write in English stories about pagan Russia. :-)

[identity profile] mytza.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I can say for sure that His Excellency hasn't suffered any accident that would have constrained him to accept a transfusion here :)))

Yes, everything is googlable in this world... Still I prefer Yandex over Google when I want to search for Russian names, lyrics or events - especially since I discovered their blog search engine.
Thanks for "от добра добра не ищут" - I didn't know this expression :)

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yah! Blog search engine is excellent on Yandex. Its great, you can integrate it (http://www.mozilla-russia.org/searchengines/) into Firefox.

[identity profile] mytza.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Super, indeed... And I who thought for a long time that the ever-present Google toolbar is the ultimate tool around, with its absurd list of blogs buttons... :))

[identity profile] llill.livejournal.com 2006-11-03 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
В Болгарии все Ивановы имеют ударение на "а". Да и в России встречаются.

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-03 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
May be. But in Moscow this "sometimes" is not in top 10.

[identity profile] llill.livejournal.com 2006-11-04 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
OK

[identity profile] miti-ann.livejournal.com 2006-11-05 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
what about "Мишка", "Мишутка" "Михайло"??

Re: *wow*

[identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com 2006-11-05 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

*makes notes*

Re: Timo...

[identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com 2006-11-05 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, his parents/friends would call him Timosha.... cool. Like that better than Timofei.

Also interesting stuff about "Timo" sounding gay. :) Didn't know there were "gay forms" of Russian names. :)

Re: Timo...

[identity profile] arvi.livejournal.com 2006-11-05 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Only if you stress the last syllable. Gays and lesbians usially use French-kind names. For example, from Nina and Natasha it could be: NinO, Ninel', Natali... TimO could be the same kind of playing with names, like VanO (from Vanya).

There are also Vovan, Tolyan — special kind of names Vova and Tolya, used by New Russians and other criminals.

Re: *wow*

[identity profile] inkittenus.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ye, and associates with бесноватый - possessed. ;-)

Re: Timo...

[identity profile] unlightened.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
used by New Russians and other criminals.
Not necessarily.

[identity profile] mourniq.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
художник Александр ИвАнов, создатель картины "Явление Христа народу"

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